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Reformed People

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Yesterday we introduced the notion of Reformed Points, points you get for doing reformed type activities and lose for doing unreformed type things. Today, we illustrate how these points work in practice. Below is a no expense spared graph, in which we illustrate how reformed points work for three famous Evangelical Christians

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Steve Chalke

Positive Points: Does generally good type Christian things, preaches gospel, probably likes Calvin in the comfort of his own home, trained at Spurgeon's college (gets bonus points for this as Spurgeon himself had reformed points in abundance), sets up Christian Charity. Negative Points: Deny's Penal Substitution. Error! Total Points: Just under the Line Of Orthodoxy Overview: Steve Chalke made an error when he denied penal substitution. When he denied penal substitution. What he should have done was write a few books on the Gloriousness of Unconditional Election and maybe a TV show called 'The 100 Greatest Reformers'. Then he'd have bagged himself enough reformed points to quibble with something major like Penal Substitution. Unfortunately he just wasn't reformed enough to pull it off. He's got a lot of work to do before he's truly reformed

C.S. Lewis

Positive Points: Decent conversion story, Wrote a shed load of good stuff (The Narnia books to name but one), had initials as opposed to a first name, generally an alright guy, famous for being a Christian.
Negative Points: Too nice to Catholics, occasionally had slightly odd views on stuff, probably made occasional jokes at reformers expensive, was not considered too preachy by the BBC.
Total Points: Comfortably over the margin of orthodoxy!
Overview: By dying with points above the margin of orthodoxy and being so famous C.S. Lewis was eligible for posthumous reformed points elevating him to near saint like levels of orthodoxy. Every word he said that was even slightly unreformed was transformed in the twinkling of an eye to inspired word. He can do no wrong (granted, this would be hard being dead and awaiting the new earth where sin is unheard of, but still). For similar examples of posthumous reformed points see G.K. Chesterton, Martin Luther King Junior, Calvin and St Augustine.

John Stott

Positive Points: Writes about important things like the Cross, Mission and God, wrote the Cross Of Christ, by and large supported TULIP, seems to like Calvin, Is John Stott, is single, is not American (American's are automatically less reformed because of bias (mine, not there's), does a good effort of rebuking liberalism.
Negative Points: Denied literal hell
Total Points: Ridiculous amount of reformed points
Overview: A classic example of how having vast amounts of reformed points allows you to get away with unorthodox views on certain subjects. If he'd denied penal atonement he'd still have more reformed points than most.

There, I hope that has helped clear up any confusion about what reformed points are. I know it's helped me in my walk as I follow Calvin... uh wait... Luth... No... Jesus! Yeah that's it. So yes, hooray for 2000 years of Calvinism! May he return soon!

Right Now

(8) I can hear music - The Beach Boys

There are 28 expressions of opinion about what was written.
Mark wrote this at 17:51, Thu, 14/07/05, Link
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Paul

BULLET POINT Pardon?
BULLET POINT I don't get it.

Written by Paul at 19:40, Thu, 14/07/05

Jilly

How would Cliff Richard fare on the reformed rating scale?? im not sure which way *summer holiday* would sway it....:-S

Written by Jilly at 23:55, Thu, 14/07/05

Jilly

....at which point i would love to bring to your attention the fact that i am not a Cliff fan...merely would appreciate your comments on this burning issue :-)

Written by Jilly at 23:58, Thu, 14/07/05

Paul

REFORMED POINT

(it's a bit like a bullet point, nothing to do with Calvinism)

If you think about this latest Mark idea, you'll give yourself a calvinism.

Written by Paul at 09:51, Fri, 15/07/05

Benjamin

Great work Mark!!

Go write a book or something.

Written by Benjamin at 21:38, Fri, 15/07/05

the real Phil Brown

Hee hee, mark's away, so he won't be able to do anything if we trash this site... Or perhaps just lower its tone slightly. Poo.

Written by the real Phil Brown at 16:29, Mon, 18/07/05

Paul

BULLET POINT Madagascar, 20:00 this wednesday! meet at ugc at 1950 to get chips and drinks.

BULLET POINT I aggree Phil: Bbums, poo and wee

BULLET POINT Mark Smells.

Written by Paul at 16:59, Mon, 18/07/05

Daffyd

Another bacardi and coke please Rhiannon...

Written by Daffyd at 11:05, Tue, 19/07/05

Mr.Moony

This website blows. Go back to talking about 'knocking one off' please.

Written by Mr.Moony at 12:09, Tue, 19/07/05

Paul

Madagascar on Wednesday won't be attended by me, as I have other plans. Feel free to go along, as they'll still be showing the film even though I won't be there.

Written by Paul at 15:04, Tue, 19/07/05

Hayles

im in honduras!!!!!!!! woooo!
hey guys! go for it and trash the site.........
poo!
wee!

Written by Hayles at 00:32, Wed, 20/07/05

Paul

BULLET POINT well don't be going on your computer while on your holidays! I've a tedious job to avoid doing, what's your excuse for looking on walley's site.

BULLET POINT pooey wee bummy bum

BULLET POINT BUM

Written by Paul at 11:47, Wed, 20/07/05

the real Phil Brown

Hey Hayley, if you're on this ebfore you're back, guess what!!! (Clue: *BIG GRIN*)

Written by the real Phil Brown at 15:01, Wed, 20/07/05

Paul

You're now fully potty trained?

(8) you can do it too, with Candoo! (8)

Written by Paul at 16:41, Wed, 20/07/05

the real Phil Brown

It involved 5 minors, and not in the Michael Jackson sense...

Written by the real Phil Brown at 08:19, Thu, 21/07/05

Paul

one of these then:
BULLET POINT You're moving to the north?
BULLET POINT You're goin' downt' pit?
BULLET POINT You've stolen 5 nice new pickaxes?
BULLET POINT You've learnt 9 new chords on your geeeeeeetah!

Written by Paul at 09:08, Thu, 21/07/05

the real Phil Brown

Close, oh so close...

Written by the real Phil Brown at 16:23, Thu, 21/07/05

paul

It's a mixture of all of them...

ISN'T IT??!!

Written by paul at 19:38, Thu, 21/07/05

the real Phil Brown

Heh heh heh heh heh...

Poo bum willy,

BULLET POINT

Written by the real Phil Brown at 22:03, Thu, 21/07/05

SMELLYFACE!!!!!

Flangebrackets!

Bum bum bum bum bum bumbumbumbum WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BUM

U - G - L - Y YOu ain't got no alibi you UGLY.

ETC.

Written by SMELLYFACE!!!!! at 12:04, Fri, 22/07/05

Paul

Check the double steal by Phil Brown!

He steals Mark's idea (stealing other peoples funny things that they do or say) then uses that ida to steal my idea (BULLET POINT)

How rude!

and before you tell me I stole you idea for messing up Marks site with rude words, you told everyone to do so.

Oh I'm such a beeatch. Like Crug.

Written by Paul at 15:15, Fri, 22/07/05

crug

now who is stealing ideas i'm the only beeatch round here and i believe Kev is the only one qualified to lable someone as a beeatch.

Written by crug at 15:38, Fri, 22/07/05

the real Phil Brown

That's why they call me scumbag... (No, really, I've only just realised)

Written by the real Phil Brown at 17:52, Fri, 22/07/05

the real Phil Brown

Hmm, howsabout moving to somewhere which requires less scrolling...

Written by the real Phil Brown at 09:10, Sat, 23/07/05

Mr.Moony

Its good to have land.

Written by Mr.Moony at 12:16, Mon, 25/07/05

Edmund

BULLET POINT
I'm back
that means so is Mark
that means we only have about one more day to trash his site
I know i have not been involved in the trashing thus far, but i want to be involved for this last day
POO
BUM
WILLY
BULLET POINT
Slovakia was wicked by the way. Especially missing the flight and having a 38 hour journey home! Check out my photostream on flickr. Or, for even easier access, check out my slovakia set.
BULLET POINT

Written by Edmund at 12:21, Mon, 25/07/05

Paul

Don't you steal my marvellously funny original BULLET POINTs (c)

Written by Paul at 14:11, Mon, 25/07/05

Kev!

Where am i?

Written by Kev! at 14:59, Mon, 25/07/05

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