Part Finished: Some Final Thoughts

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And so ends our fantastic series on the origins of Christmas. To recap, at first no-one cared about when Jesus was born because it wasn't important, then when they decided to celebrate it they decided to celebrate it based upon its religious significance, not on the basis of its date and then when they finally firmly decided on a date, they only used the date of a Pagan festival for convenience and to make a point. In no way can it be said that Christmas was a pagan festival. It may have taken the date from Paganism, but it didn't take the meaning or the celebration.

Which leads me to make some pithy one line conclusion that'll make you all think and go "hmm". So here we go. In all of this, if you take away one thing from all this, take away this; while the date that Jesus was born on is fairly irrelevant to anything, that He was born is of fundamental importance to the entire planet.

Right Now

(8) Christmastime - Smashing Pumpkins

There are 23 expressions of opinion about what was written.
Mark wrote this at 09:16, Fri, 23/12/05, Link
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Paul

BULLET POINT ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Christmas.
BULLET POINT In the photo of Rachel, you can see that foxy girl the crugpiece and me went to school with. Too scared to speak to her. Next time, eh.
BULLET POINT I notice that you've not credited my hat in any of those photos...

Written by Paul at 00:05, Sat, 24/12/05

Gareth

Amen to that Walley!

Written by Gareth at 11:19, Sat, 24/12/05

Kerron

3 totally unrelated points:

1) Like the girl in that pic with Rach too.

2) I am single.

3) Like that link you have just added asking people to contact their local councillor/MP etc.

Oh if only those 3 points were related. :-)

Merry Christmas everyone!

Written by Kerron at 20:49, Sat, 24/12/05

Rory

Your cousin Matthew linked me to your stories on the origin of Christmas. Very consice. I might add that while some celebrated Jesus' baptism, and some his birth - Catholics celebrat the immaculate conception, which is surely the "true" (inasmuch as we can find truth in such a sticky subject) date of God coming to earth? Also, surely God has come to earth before (the burning bush, the revelation of the 10 commandments, etc)? Just some thoughts.
Congrats on an excellent and well-researched article.

Written by Rory at 17:56, Sun, 25/12/05

Kerron

Gee, and I wonder why I'm single!

Written by Kerron at 19:51, Sun, 25/12/05

the real Phil Brown


  • Bullet point?

Written by the real Phil Brown at 21:42, Sun, 25/12/05

the real Phil Brown


  • YAY! BULLET POINTS!

Written by the real Phil Brown at 21:43, Sun, 25/12/05

master of the bullet points...

hmm, what other jiggery-pokery is allowed..?

Written by master of the bullet points... at 22:05, Sun, 25/12/05

the real Phil Brown

wow...

Written by the real Phil Brown at 22:58, Sun, 25/12/05

the real Phil Brown

Written by the real Phil Brown at 23:39, Sun, 25/12/05

Paul

BULLET POINT Phil, I feel you've missed the point of bullet points.
BULLET POINT Kerron, I've been within 6 feet of that girl, far closer than your restraining order would allow.
BULLET POINT Gareth, stop posting comments which relat to Mark's blog, it's just not right.
BULLET POINT Actually Kerron, I passed her on the stairs at school, our eyes met... she scowled and walked off to talk to someone better than me...
BULLET POINT Bullet point?

Written by Paul at 00:27, Mon, 26/12/05

the real Phil Brown





  • BULLETPOINT




...better?

Written by the real Phil Brown at 00:51, Mon, 26/12/05

the real Phil Brown

BULLET POINT
Written by the real Phil Brown at 00:54, Mon, 26/12/05

the real Phil Brown

campfire

Written by the real Phil Brown at 01:00, Mon, 26/12/05

the real Phil Brown

wow...
animation

Written by the real Phil Brown at 01:11, Mon, 26/12/05

Kerron

BULLET POINT Paul, I was that other man near the stairs that she came to talk to. ;-)

BULLET POINT This means I am better than you.

BULLET POINT Watford are much better than Ipswich.

BULLET POINT Only one of those statements may be true!

:-)

Merry Christmas guys!

Written by Kerron at 13:32, Tue, 27/12/05

Sparticus

In response to the only real response here.

BULLET POINT.

Only joking

Yes God came down before, but not like this. In the incarnation God comes down on our terms in human form.

Also, it would be right to say God came down at conception not at birth, but I guess it'd be even harder to place that date.

Written by Sparticus at 16:00, Tue, 27/12/05

Sparticus

In response to the only real response here.

BULLET POINT.

Only joking

Yes God came down before, but not like this. In the incarnation God comes down on our terms in human form.

Also, it would be right to say God came down at conception not at birth, but I guess it'd be even harder to place that date.

Written by Sparticus at 16:04, Tue, 27/12/05

Rory

Yeah, the Catholic Immaculate Conception, how did they figure out when that was? Sounds pretty kinky.
Answers in essay form, 4,000 words, due in by next Friday.

Written by Rory at 17:50, Tue, 27/12/05

Kerron

Mark, a point so good you made it twice!

:-)

Written by Kerron at 18:42, Tue, 27/12/05

Paul

Kerron

BULLET POINT You weren't at my school...
BULLET POINT Watford are (currently) better than Ipswich
BULLET POINT Which means I may be better than you.

Written by Paul at 12:35, Wed, 28/12/05

Kerron

No, you are definitely better than me.

But I could well have been at your school - I mean it definitely would have been before the exclusion order was put in place. ;-)

Written by Kerron at 08:03, Thu, 29/12/05

Matthew

The Immaculate Conception is a Catholic conspiracy designed to elevate Mary above her status as a sinful human saved by grace - it doesn't refer to Jesus at all, it's Mary being born without original sin (which is complete rubbish).

Mark, you're the theologian, shouldn't you have picked up on this? ;)

Written by Matthew at 17:13, Sat, 31/12/05

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